I did a twenty foot print and John Cage is involved in that because he was the only person I knew in New York who had a car and who would be willing to do this.
So that ideas of sort of relaxed symmetry have been something for years that I have been concerned with because I think that symmetry is a neutral shape as opposed to a form of design.
You begin with the possibilities of the material.
There was a whole language that I could never make function for myself in relationship to painting and that was attitudes like tortured, struggle, pain.
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